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Old 12-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
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From what I understand you dont have to remove the heads when you change the cams if your using the NSR and not removing the springs Is this correct.

And I understand that you only get 30 to 40RWHP with these cams that what I want. But when you think of the cost of head gaskets, new bolts, lash adjusters and springs and $700 to $800 stage 3 comp cams and someone to install them you get a price of over $1800 for 80HP no including a tune thats a waste I think. I get 125 from my NX for only the 900 I spent for BH and purge kit.

I have heard of these NSR cams pumping out 35 to 40RWHP commonly with a good tune.
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From what I understand you dont have to remove the heads when you change the cams if your using the NSR and not removing the springs Is this correct.
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And I understand that you only get 30 to 40RWHP with these cams that what I want. But when you think of the cost of head gaskets, new bolts, lash adjusters and springs and $700 to $800 stage 3 comp cams and someone to install them you get a price of over $1800 for 80HP no including a tune thats a waste I think. I get 125 from my NX for only the 900 I spent for BH and purge kit.
I haven't seen anyone getting 80HP out of ANY cam install. Maybe when you add the nitrous you'll get that much extra tho.

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I have heard of these NSR cams pumping out 35 to 40RWHP commonly with a good tune.
25-30 is what I have seen from quite a bit of researching.
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I know I seem bitter but I dont have money to waste do you know if there are any other part you need when installing NSR Cams I am going to do them myself.
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I know I seem bitter but I dont have money to waste do you know if there are any other part you need when installing NSR Cams I am going to do them myself.
Nah, I'm about to do some cams too so just happen to be trying to get maximum info before I do it too. They say you need a special tool to wedge the timing chain, but I saw someone else on here made their own. In any case, it shouldn't move....not sure it's really even needed at all. Just mark the chain and the crank and whatever else looks good.

FYI I think I saw someone had a special on the comp nsr cams for $579. You might want to jump on that price.
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yes American Muscle has the stage 1 for that price but the stage 2 are $699 and thats what I want and Breenspeed has the stage 2 thumper cams and comp cams stage 2 for $649
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Excuse me they had them at that price but only for that one satuday sale now both stages are $699.00 on americanmuscle.com
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I found the Cheapest NSR From Comp Stage II NSR Camshafts (No Springs Required)
$578 stage 2 NSR

here are the stats and stages from rpm outlet
XFI™ NSR (no springs required) Compatible with stock springs. Works with tuners, no computer re-tuning required.IN- .450
EX- .450IN- 253°
EX- 270°114.0°
  • XFI™ NSR (stock engine) STAGE I
  • RPM OPERATING RANGE= 650 to 6200
  • EXCELLENT performance upgrade over stock cams
  • Solid power gains above 4700 rpm, works with stock springs
  • Works with stock computer, no computer re-tuning required
  • No Idle Change, Net power increases up to 20 +HP
CCA127050

$ 669.99

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/store/image...dd_To_Cart.gifIN- .450
EX- .450IN- 253°
EX- 274°115.0°
  • XFI™ NSR (Supercharged/Nitrous) STAGE I
  • RPM OPERATING RANGE= 750 to 6200
  • EXCELLENT performance upgrade over stock cams
  • Solid power gains above 4700 rpm, works with stock springs
  • Compatible with stock springs. Best with stock gears.
  • No Idle Change, Net power increases up to 20 +HP
CCA127055

$ 669.99

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/store/image...dd_To_Cart.gifIN- .450
EX- .450IN- 264°
EX- 278°115.5°
  • XFI™ NSR (stock engine) STAGE II
  • RPM OPERATING RANGE= 750 to 6400
  • EXCELLENT performance upgrade over stock cams
  • Solid power gains above 4700 rpm, works with stock springs
  • Works with stock computer, no computer re-tuning required
  • Great idle, Net power increases up to 25 +HP
CCA127200

$ 669.99

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/store/image...dd_To_Cart.gifIN- .450
EX- .450IN- 261°
EX- 282°116.5°
  • XFI™ NSR (Supercharged/Nitrous) STAGE II
  • RPM OPERATING RANGE= 750 to 6400
  • EXCELLENT performance upgrade over stock cams
  • Solid power gains above 4900 rpm, works with stock springs
  • Best with 3.73+ gears & 2500 stall
  • Great idle, Net power increases up to 25 +HP
CCA127205

$ 669.99

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/store/image...dd_To_Cart.gif
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NSR cams are not going to give you 40 rwhp. 25-30 tops. All cams can be swapped with the heads on the car, including those that require valve springs.
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Check out the FRPP Hotrod Cams, they are NSR.
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What STL said is going to be 200% correct
the Stage3 comp cams, and similar levels of performance cams will maybe get the 40 out of it, the other NSR cams will see between 20 and 30. (I tried to educate myself on cams a bit more after someone tried to claim having the VSR comp cams in his car, and that he was able to have 50 extra hp from them. Also that he had never tuned his car, and that everything else was stock. He also didn't want to start his car up.
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Can anyone justify why this special wedging tool is needed for the timing chain? I just don't see any reason this is necessary at all if you mark the chain. It could be moved back to the same spot if it somehow moved.
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The reason for the wedge is to hold the chain against the tensioners so it doesn't slip on the crank gear. You should mark it for the phaser anyway.
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What STL said is going to be 200% correct
the Stage3 comp cams, and similar levels of performance cams will maybe get the 40 out of it, the other NSR cams will see between 20 and 30. (I tried to educate myself on cams a bit more after someone tried to claim having the VSR comp cams in his car, and that he was able to have 50 extra hp from them. Also that he had never tuned his car, and that everything else was stock. He also didn't want to start his car up.
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